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God and other gods

In my previous post I began addressing the question(s) posted by Brian from Kentucky.  I wrote about intelligent people and their belief or lack of belief in God.  In this post I will address the second part of Brian’s question which regards people believing in a god other than the one presented in the scriptures – the God of Christians and Jews.

The question asked, “if we were born in another culture that believed in something else, do you think it would make just as much sense? Did we just get lucky to be born in the right culture with the right beliefs around us?”

Listen to these words from Dr. William Lane Craig, Research Professor of Philosophy at Talbot School of Theology. “(In) Romans chapters 1 and 2 in the New Testament Paul says that salvation is available to any person who responds to the light of nature and conscience, if he hasn’t heard the Good News about Jesus Christ, say, a person living in North America during the Middle Ages, before missionaries came. If this person will respond to the witness of God in nature—he can see there’s a Creator God, say—and he senses the moral law of God written on his heart, and he responds, Paul says in Romans chapter 2 in verse 7, God will give that person eternal life. Now that doesn’t mean he’s saved apart from Christ, but it would mean that he may not have a conscious knowledge of Christ, which is the basis of his salvation. He would be like a person in the Old Testament who was saved through Christ, even though he hadn’t yet heard of Christ; he responded to the light that he had. So I think God gives sufficient grace or salvation to every person. God is fair and He’s loving and He wants everyone to come to know Him and be saved.”

Paul here shows us that God’s power and deity and His character are made known by the creation around us. In Romans 2:15 Paul tells us that the requirements of the law are written on the hearts of the Gentiles who do not have the written testimony. He continues by saying,”their consciences also bearing witness.” God has written His moral law on the hearts of all men. Therefore they are morally responsible before God.

From this witness of both creation and conscience man is compelled to believe in a creator God.  It is more reasonable to believe in the existence of God than it is to not.  Man must truly deny the nature imprinted on him in order to not believe in the existence of God.

One of the most common arguments against Christian singularism or particularism (ref: we believe in one God and one God only and believe He is the God revealed and identified in the scriptures and through His Son Jesus the Christ), is based on the tenet that religious beliefs are culturally relative.  In other words, someone born and raised in a culture that does not teach Christ cannot be expected to be saved by Christ.  Where this argument fails is that it attempts to invalidate the position of Christian singularism by criticizing the way a person came to hold that position.  The fact of where and when a person was born holds no relevance to the validity of one’s beliefs.  To give a non-religious example; if you had been born in ancient Greece you would have believed the sun orbits the earth.  Does that somehow imply that our belief that the earth orbits the sun is therefore false or even unjustified?

Part of the blame for Christian singularism being unpalatable to so many lies on the shoulders of those who hold that very belief.  The issue is, what shall be the fate of unbelievers outside of our particular religious tradition?  The Christian singularist too often consigns them to hell.  This is unacceptable to the conscience and reason of those both inside and outside of the Christian tradition.  It is always followed by the question of, “how can a loving God send them to hell?”   This goes against the very nature of God that we love to preach.  Stated simply, it doesn’t make sense and as we all know ‘God Makes Sense’.

Look in 2 Peter 3:9, 1 Timothy 2:4, and Ezekiel chapter 18.  In all of these passages of scripture we see where God wants all people to be saved; “The Lord is not willing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.”   In Ezekiel we read that God finds no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked.  He would rather that all would turn from their wickedness and live.

So how does God accomplish this apart from Christ?  He doesn’t.  The atoning sacrifice of Christ is the only means of salvation for all.  It is a universal atonement, even for those who have never heard of Him.  His sacrifice on the cross and His resurrection are means of forgiveness and atonement for all people of all time.  Another way to help think about this is to consider those of the Old Testament.  The provision for their salvation is through Christ, even though they had never heard of Him.

God does not judge people who have never heard of Christ based on whether or not they have placed their faith in Christ.  Look at Romans 2:7, “to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, He will give eternal life.”  This is a sincere offer of salvation.  This is not saying that people can be saved apart from Christ, rather it is saying that the benefits of Christ’s atoning death can be applied to people without their having a conscious knowledge of Him.  God judges people based on the light of revelation given to them.  As has been illustrated above this general revelation is available to all through nature and that which God has written on their hearts or conscience (Romans 2:15).

If any such person will respond to the witness of God in nature (for he can see there is a creator God, remember it far more reasonable to believe this) and as he senses the moral law of God written on his heart and responds, this person will be given the gift of eternal life (Romans 2:7).  The possibility of this is provided through the atoning sacrifice of Christ.

So, ‘God Makes Sense’ to people of all cultures.

God and Intelligent People

Brian from Kentucky asked the following:

Something came up in my small group the other day – If God makes so much sense to us, then why are there so many smart people that believe in something else? There are plenty of people out there that are way more educated and way smarter than any Christian I know that believe in another God or believe in no God at all.
Also, if we were born in another culture that believed in something else, do you think it would make just as much sense? Did we just get lucky to be born in the right culture with the right beliefs around us?

There are actually two distinct questions here so I am going to treat them in two different posts.  First of all, thanks Brian for your questions.

The first question deals with the belief of intelligent people in regard to God.  Brian, you are absolutely correct in your assessment that a number of intelligent people do not believe in any God, while others believe in a different god than this site professes.  It is a common misconception though that intelligent people do not believe in God (or some god).  Throughout history some of the wisest and most intelligent people have professed their belief in a God of creation.  The bible tells us of the man Solomon and his legendary wisdom.  Certainly Solomon believed in God.  I will not focus on him to make this point since our knowledge of Solomon is primarily from the bible and we would in a sense be using the bible to support the bible.

Isaac Newton is regarded by many as one of the most intelligent people and most respected scientists to have lived.  During his lifetime Newton wrote over one million words regarding theology.  Indeed, he spent more time on theology than on science.

Another great man of science in history, Galileo Galilei, spent much of his life showing the harmony of the scripture and science.  While his scientific views seemed to have gotten him into hot water with the church, as he held to a Copernican cosmology, while the church had for years based their belief on Aristotelian cosmology (with the earth at the center of all things), it was probably actually his sharp sarcasm that got him into more trouble than his beliefs.  He never met a debate that he didn’t like and was quick to enter into argument where his intellect and knowledge, combined with his sharp wit would often humiliate his opponent.

Even well-known scientists of a more modern era, Einstein and Stephen Hawking have admitted that a creator God is the most plausible solution to the ultimate source of what we know – albeit Einstein admitted it begrudgingly, he admitted it none the less.  Great minds of other disciplines besides science and math have expressed their belief in God throughout history as well.

The perception that intellectuals do not believe in God is due in part to the fact that some are extremely vociferous in their objections.

Dr. Henry F. Schaefer III, Grahan Perdue Professor of Chemistry and director of the Center for Computational Quantum Chemistry at the University of Georgia has been nominated for the Nobel prize and was recently cited as the third most quoted chemist in the world.  Dr. Schaefer states in regard to the resistance to the idea of a beginning of the universe and subsequently a belief that God is the author and origin of that beginning, “Why such resistance to the idea of a definite beginning of the universe? It goes right back to that first argument, the cosmological argument: (a) Everything that begins to exist must have a cause; (b) If the universe began to exist, then (c) the universe must have a cause. You can see the direction in which this argument is flowing–a direction of discomfort to some physicists.”

The direction Dr. Shaeffer refers to is the fact that if the universe has a cause, it must have a creator, and if it has a creator and a cause, people ought to be compelled to line up with that cause. For many, the idea of lining up with anything greater than themselves or their ideas is frightening at best.

This is supported by the Apostle Paul’s words in I Corinthians 1:18 thru 31.  In this passage of scripture Paul states, “For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written: ‘I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.’ “  Paul has quoted Isaiah 29:14 in the last half of those verses above.  God predicted that those who are considered to be and who consider themselves to be wise would doubt His primary message, the gospel.

In verse 23 of the passage Paul writes, “but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles.  Why would it be “foolishness to the Gentiles?”  Man, by nature is an arrogant creature.  At the risk of painting with too broad of a brush, those who consider themselves wise are often the most arrogant.  It is utter foolishness to those who like to sit around and debate wisdom to consider that the answer to man’s problems is actually the act of self-humiliation by the creator, the very one who should embody wisdom.  The arrogance of man often gets in the way of him finding the real answers.  Paul, recognized this trait.  Solomon also recognized it as he wrote in Proverbs and Ecclesiastes.

Thirdly, would man really want a God who is no smarter than he is?  While we struggle in our arrogance to believe in Him, logic tells us that one who could and is charged with the creation and maintenance of the universe would need to be significantly wiser and smarter than any man.  This is part of what Paul means when he states in verse 25, “For the foolishness of God is wiser than man’s wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man’s strength”

One cannot prove the existence of God, but logic leads one in that direction much more readily than it leads one to a void – which is what would be if God did not exist.
In my next post I will address the second part of Brian’s questions relating to people believing in other gods, especially other cultures.

Identifying Christ – Part 2

Below is part 2 of the article written by our guest author, Rev. Dave Rodgers

As “Who is Jesus?” is a significant question, so is the question, “Why did He come?” Scholars agree Jesus came to usher in the “Kingdom of God.” Jesus came to embody and introduce God’s Kingdom: God’s way of doing things in the world God created. Every key point along the way in the life of Jesus, from His unusual birth to His tragic death, to His glorious resurrection and ascension, became key elements in understanding and experiencing the Kingdom of God in all its fullness. Jesus came so that man can share in the Kingdom of God. Jesus came as God’s provision, to atone for the sin of man and to set man free from the penalty of sin. This penalty, which man is saved from, is death eternal.

Through the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ, on the cross of Calvary, God atoned for the sins of all those who will believe and call on the name of Jesus Christ as Lord. Jesus did more than simply proclaim salvation. On the contrary, he creates salvation as we share in His life, death, and resurrection. The result is that Jesus is Savior, not only from the penalty of sin, but from the power of sin as well. The salvation process we enter into when we first believe is carried through to completion throughout our lives unto glorification. As Paul states in Colossians 1:13, “God has rescued us from the power of darkness and transferred us into the Kingdom of His beloved Son.” This transference is the fullness of why Jesus came.

In conclusion, Jesus is the revelation of God himself in both person and purpose. It is through God’s revelation that we know Him, and it is through a personal knowledge of Him that we can be saved. Revelation comes in the form of enlightenment. The term enlightenment points us to the fact that our knowledge of God is the result of God’s grace, not of human inquiry. Jesus Christ ushers in God’s Kingdom by ushering in God’s grace.

God Makes Sense Podcast

Recently the author of this site spent some time with ‘The Podcast Answer Man’ recording a podcast titled ‘God Makes Sense’.  The Podcast Answer Man, Cliff Ravenscraft, has a number of podcasts, one of which is called ‘About the Church’  Reverend Raney has begun joining Cliff as a guest host from time to time.  Listen to the podcast below.  You can listen to it online or you can download it for listening later.

Identifying Christ – Part 1

This article is submitted by a guest author, Rev, Dave Rodgers.   It is divided into two parts.  Below is part 1.  Part 2 will post later this week.

Who is Jesus Christ? This question has intrigued humanity since the Angel Gabriel first appeared to Mary. In fact, it is within the birth narrative that we find our first glimpse of who Jesus is. Within the first two chapters of Luke’s Gospel, we find Jesus is the Son of Mary (Luke 1:31), He is great and will be called the Son of the Most High (Luke1:32). We read about His Kingship is verses 32 and 33 and that he is conceived through the power of the Most High. The Anthanasian Creed clarifies the conception as “The Son was neither made nor created; He was begotten from the Father alone.” In Luke 2:11, the angel again appears and tells the shepherds  Jesus is a Savior, born to them, and He is Christ the Lord. In the first chapter of Matthew, the Prophet Isaiah is quoted; “The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel – which means God with us.” However, what does all this mean – who is Jesus the Christ, Jesus of Nazareth?

The study of who Jesus is is called Christology. Simply stated, Christology is the study of the birth, life, death, and resurrection of the person Jesus Christ. With God’s Holy Scriptures as the primary source, Christology attempts to uncover the mystery of who Jesus Christ is. Christology, however, does not terminate into an exact statement. While it certainly uncovers much about Jesus Christ and His purpose, one must not overlook the conclusion of the study; that much of the “how” of Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection remains a mystery. This mystery is not a limit of an infinite God, rather a limit of finite man.

Christology begins with the study of Jesus’ birth. As stated earlier, Matthew’s Gospel quotes the Prophet Isaiah in chapter one verse 23; “Jesus…will be called – Immanuel – which means God with us.” The first verse of John’s Gospel emphasizes and reinforces this point:

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God.” (1:1) The fourteenth verse of John’s Gospel (chapter 1) states: “And the Word became flesh and lived among us, and we have seen His glory, the glory of a Father’s only Son, full of grace and truth.” What John is stating is referred to as the Incarnation; the belief that Jesus is God incarnate, or God embodied in flesh. This belief, within the limits of the human mind, remains a mystery. In fact, the study of the incarnation of God is both fully God (His divinity) and fully human (His humanity). Jesus Christ is the eternal Logos (the Word), who has assumed and personalized a human nature. The two natures did not join to form a composite person; rather the Son added humanity permanently. The Son is eternally God – yesterday, today, and forever – and remains so. In the Incarnation, He chose to lower himself, adding human nature, in which He was obedient to the Father, while simultaneously, ruling the universe. Jesus himself, throughout His teaching, reaffirmed this fact. In John 14:9, Jesus states, “Whoever has seen me, has seen the Father as well.” Jesus’ humanity assures us that He understands our hopes and fears.  Jesus’ divinity assures us of all else God has promised. One final thought worth noting is that Jesus is the most accurate representation we have of God the Father, but Jesus is not the complete representation of God. No Christian would say the fullness of God has been revealed. As stated earlier, our finite mind cannot fully comprehend an infinite God. Understanding this, one realizes that what we do know about God, we find in Jesus Christ.

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