The people of faith in the Bible were corrupted by the sinful nature just like everyone else and sometimes their actions and even practices reflected this. It is this corruption that causes us to live outside the norm. In the case of this current topic, the norm being the deisre of one woman for one man and vice-versa. Thats why Paul said don’t live according to the flesh (or sinful nature) but live according to the Spirit – because the flesh (sinful nature) is a corrupted (strayed from the norm, i.e. how we created or intended).]]>
If you read more carefully you will see that I didn’t claim that “the person that the last post stated was going to kill themselves and then decided not to because of what they were going to leave behind, the reason why he was thinking that, is because of god (sp).” In response to the example of the person who was going to kill themselves but did not when they thought about all the people who cared about them, I suggested that maybe God was the one who introduced the thoughts regarding those people who cared about them. That’s a long way from saying that God control’s our thoughts. While by definition, an almighty God would have the power to control how people think I do not believe this is is how He normally operates. To do so would usurp the free will that He himself created us with. To believe that God could introduce such thoughts to us or remind us of such thoughts is not a difficult thing to believe in. You and I regularly introduce ideas to people and remind them of memories. If we can do so, how hard is it to believe that an almighty God can? God absolutely did not give up on this person or any person. A person can be loved continuously and reminded of this love regularly but still choose to ignore it.
The height of love can be seen no more clearly than in the idea of free will. Free will is full of possibility and risk at the same time. One cannot experience love both in receiving and in giving without free will. It requires the ultimate love to create someone with free will. Mindless robots carry far less risk, but they cannot experience the joys and the pleasure of being loved and loving.
The existing of demons and devils concurrently with an almighty God poses no contradiction at all. Any created being with the capacity to choose can choose to rebel against authority. This again illustrates the risk involved in creating things with the capacity to choose. It is not a matter of whether or not God can get rid of these rebellious spirits. Because He has not chosen to do so yet in no way leads to the conclusion that He cannot. I still have an old beat up pickup truck. I can afford a new one. Becasue I still have the old pickup truck does not indicate that I cannot get rid of it.
On your ideas of good and evil lets consider something. We’ll start with the scientific realm for our illustration. Scientifically speaking there is no such thing as darkness. We measure light. The term darkness really means some level of the absence of light. You see light exists. It exists in an almost infinite number of levels or degrees, all the way down to 0. The same goes for coldness. We measure heat. We do not measure coldness. Coldness and darkness are abstracts. Light and heat are the absolutes. Goodness, which is God in its absolute sense, exists. Evil is an abstract that is defined by the absence of goodness.
Light is not in competition with darkness. As soon as light is introduced into an area it overcomes the darkness. You cannot say the same thing in reverse. You cannot introduce darkness into a room and overcome the light. All you can do is remove the light. It is the absence of light that brings about what we call darkness. I can bring a light into a room and make it light. I cannot bring darkness into a room and ovecome light. As soon as goodness is introduced it overcomes evil. It dispels it because by definition evil is the absence of goodness. The reason evil exists in this world is not because of the devil. Evil exists because we reject the good (and that whole free will thing comes into play again). Sure the devil is an agent of evil, but he is not evil itself. Evil is not created, it is an absence of good; a result of us rejecting the good.
I find it intersting that one can believe in an innumerable amount of realities and not believe in an absolute God. Lets suppose there is this system of innumerable amount of realities – from where do they get their reality? what makes them real? Consider if you for a moment that concept of right and wrong. I know you believe in right and wrong because you mention good and evil and the concept of death with dignity (what is dignity? It is some defined standard of a good death), etc. Where did the concept of right and wrong come from? What makes something right and something else wrong? What is the basis of this standard that we use?
In response to your final questions regarding suicide, euthanasia, death with dignity, et al; read the original post again. It doesn’t focus on punishment. It focuses on the question of whose life is it? In place of hopelessness God offers hope.]]>